Woman With Crown of twelve stars the True Identity
83Not The Church
The twelfth chapter of Revelation has also been misinterpreted. I believe that anytime that we read end time prophesy, we need to remind ourselves what 2nd Peter 1:20 says. "Knowing this first that prophesy in scripture has no private interpretation."
Now let us begin. The woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars. And she being with child cried.
Everyone that I have ever heard speaking on this subject interprets this woman to represent "The Church". I have never believed that the Church gave birth to my Savior. Excuse me but; That idea seems a bit blasphemous to me. The clay pot does not create the potter. Please, really think about this, "The Church" did not give birth to the Savior. But it sounds so good for us to say that we gave birth to the man child that is to rule the world.
This woman, clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars would have to represent that Hebrew Nation that ceased to exist around 135- 138 AD. The twelve stars would have to represent the twelve tribes of Israel. This requires no interpretative skills, to read these verses exactly as they are written.
The Lord often referred to the Hebrew people as his adulterous wife. The Church also teaches that, the Church is to be the bride of Christ. If this is true, that should further prove that the woman that gives birth to Jesus can not be his bride to be. That would be incest. The Son would not marry his mother! The woman in this chapter definitely does not represent the Church.
That Hebrew nation that was in existence in those centuries; was the bride of GOD. The one that would naturally be the woman to give birth to the son of God. The Church has been applying too much private interpretational skills, when reading prophesy in scripture, though Peter says that this is not to be done.
The Dragon, that old serpent called the Devil was standing before the woman, which was ready to be deliver, for to devour her child as soon as it were to be delivered. This prophesy was fulfilled when Herod the Great attempted to have the baby Jesus killed, before Herod's death in 4 or 1 BC. (V. 5) And the woman brought forth a man child who was to rule all nations... and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. This is definitely speaking of Jesus and his Crucifixion. The Church did not even exist at this point in time (6)And (when) the woman fled into the wilderness, where she had a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there for 1260 days. And after she fled into the wilderness, and then ...(7) there was war in heaven... (13) And when the dragon saw that he had been cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman. (14) and the woman was given two wings of an eagle, and she was carried into the wilderness for a time, times and a half time where they will feed her there and she shall hide from the face of the serpent. This is describing two diffrent timeframes
In v. 6 ...they shall feed her there for 1260 days and in v. 14 she shall hide from the face of the serpent for a time, times and an half. When I first read these verses I thought that 1260 days and a time, times and an half were the same length of time. This is not true. These periods of time did in fact begin at the same time; but the duration of each was for a different time period. 1260 days would be approx. 1643 of our years that a place was prepared that they should feed her there. 1290 days would be 1683 years that she hid from the face of the serpent.
These two diffrent timeframes began when that Hebrew Nation was scattered to the four winds of the earth. That would be counting forward from approx the year 138 AD.
In Daniel 12:7 & 11, a time, times and an half is compared by the angel as being the same as 1290 days.
After this, the dragon cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood. What is it that we have been taught that comes out of Satan's mouth? The answer to that last question is LIES. The lies coming out of the dragon's mouth are false interpretations. A flood of lies came out of the dragon's mouth and the earth swallowed them up ( BELIEVED them). The earth believed the dragon's interpretations. They should have read 2nd Peter 1:20. Centuries and centuries of false teachings have brought us to where we are today. Confused with too many denominations to choose from. Too many belief systems. That old Serpent has divided and conquered.
After that Hebrew Nation was scattered into the wilderness around 138 AD the 1260 days began. 1643 years later would bring us to around 1781 that "they should feed her there". It was around this time that the Hebrew people began migrating back into their Promised Land.
A time times and half a time after 138 AD would bring us to around 1821 that she would be hiding from the face of the Dragon. IN 1844 The Caliphate signed a decree allowing Hebrews permission to enter the cities of Israel.
The 1335 days as mentioned in Daniel 12: would have been fulfilled around the year 1900. These numbers may not be absolutely correct though I believe that the concept is . Time as we know it may not be as consistent as we want to believe, making an absolute time equation impossible to comprehend. On the other hand these numbers may be correct and we do not see fully the significance of these dates.
The point that I am making is that most all of the end time prophesy have been fulfilled with the exception of the seventh trumpet being sounded and the seventh vial being poured out. It is written in prophesy that these two are to occur at the same time.
We forget sometimes, that .... for "all" those who's names are written in the book, life after death is all the same whether you were caught up tomorrow, today, or yesterday; WE ? They ? ...all go to the same place regardless of where we fit inside the scriptural Prophesy time line. We should not be offended if our teachers "MAY" ??? have innocently been taught misinterpretations, which were innocently misinterpreted to us. Check it out for yourselves. , Read it for yourself, with an open mind. uninfluenced by preconceived ideas. What does scripture REALLY say? It says that if it were possible even the very elect would believe Satan's lies. The Beast and false Prophet have been among us for a long long time. Knowing this should make it easier to identify them
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This is a great Bible study on the woman in Revelation. I like how you used the scripture about private interpretations. One thing about God is this. He never just speaks the Word, but always reveals it. Without revelation, we would have no idea about Jesus.
We all go to the same Death. And then we'll find what we were looking for
great hub, very interesting
rev 12 is a historical account of gods spiritual nation, from jewish to modern christianity, she is now a harlot
Good study. I'd not seen that one before.
everyone seem to miss the "moon under her feet". I think the only way to interpret this is to see this as a sign in heaven having to do with constellations. When the constellations line up, things will happen. Berenices' wig has 12 stars in it. Coma before the romans altered it was called woman with child, clothed in the sun, is sunrise or sunset and all this from a literal jewish perspective, the horizon. I also believe revelation has been fulfilled, i like what you said, I am sure the french revolution is in there somewhere too. Revelation although fulfilled once will be fulfilled again and some parts aren't fulfilled yet. Revelation is doubly good. Nice work.
thanks and hello. You talk of markers and timetables. I like what you said and i agree.
The constellations are that also. When these constellations line up and the moon goes under the constellation of the woman with child, and the draco constellation is in the area looking like it will devour the child, then will (the 7 yr pact with isreal be signed and hence tribulation shall occur) things happen. I will not say this is written in stone but i do not feel that it otherwise. It is afterall a Sign in Heaven:
The thing in all of this is that it occurs over there in the middle east, not here. Christ does not return here but over there and the constellations must also be viewed from over there. Often i wonder why there is no mention of anywhere else in the world, in revelation, but over there; with all the earthquakes and famines and pestilence.. new york or california, quatemala and more, even vancouver seem to be unimportant or perhaps non-existent.
The woman is the blessed mother Mary who fixed the mess Eve made by accepting to be the Mother of God. See my hub on Why catholics pray to mary and why its logical.
Hello all.
Sorry to interrupt. :-) Being a novice astronomer interested in eschatology, etc.. I was googling to find out which constellations had 12 stars in it, to try and figure this all out, when I happened across this hub. Great informative hub by the way.. and great comments!
I was taking for granted that the virgo constellation was the woman with the crown of 12 stars and I was aware that there was a cluster of around 12 stars near her head, which from the comments I have now learned is Berenice's wig. Thank you.
I was also under the impression that it would be hydra and not draco to look like it would devour the child when the moon was under her feet, as hydra is the "Sea Serpent"
As for the timings, this is something I am also wanting to learn, and it's not easy for me, being a self taught beginner.
Would love to discuss this further. :-)
Thank you again.
Thank you so much. I have joined here because of your post and I look forward to reading more from you. Best wishes.
"Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the Scripture is of any priuate Interpretation". Makes me wonder if this means astronomy as opposed to astrology... Just thinking out loud. :-)
Hmmm, It seems that the woman in Revelation 12:1 is the same woman in Isaiah 66:7-9, Mother Zion with her daughter the Church, her womb - Jerusalem, verse 10. See John 3:3-8,16-17. Galatians 4:26 Says Jerusalem above is the Mother of us all. The Church is made up of many members, 1 Corinthians 12:13-14, 1 Corinthians 3:16 & 1 Corinthians 6:19-20 and is the birthing center for new saints. Hmmm, I wonder about this woman in, Revelation 12:1? Who conceived Jesus Christ in Mary's womb, Matthew 1:20?
Jesus will replace the old adulterous wife with his new virtuous and righteous wife, Revelation 19:7; 21:2,9-10.
Here's an interesting Bible study for you. Check out Strong's Concordance and see how many times the term Jerusalem is called the daughter of Zion. It could be God is telling us about the church(us) and the Holy Spirit's relationship, Revelation 22:17. Remember each one of us is begotten of the Father and born of the Holy Spirit, John 3:3-8,16-17. We are temples for The Holy Spirit in each of us that makes us into the Church as a beautiful woman the Bride of Jesus Christ, 1 Corinthians 3:16-17; 6:19-20; 12:11-14; 2 Corinthians 6:16-18. Lots of symbolism here but all very true because Jesus Christ tells us so, John 14:6. Even here it gets very interesting in John 14:23-26.
No, the Church did not but the Holy Spirit and Mary did, Matthew 1:18-20,23. Because of Christ's death the Church was formed as a new creation as the future Bride of Christ,Acts 2:1-21 and more sons and daughter of God can be born of the Holy Spirit through God's new birthing center the Church, John :3-8.Acts 2:1-21.
Good effort but the sun, moon and 12 Stars are the first family of Israel: Jacob, Rachael and Jacob's 12 sons as revealed from Joseph's dream in Genesis 37.9 so we are talking Israel, not the 12 tribes. The woman (Israel) gives birth to Jesus, the Dragon through Herod seeking to destroy Him. Jesus was caught up to heaven following the resurrection. In my opinion, we now move to the Last Days and the 70th week. I am still working on unlocking Revelation but can confirm the silence in heaven Ch.8.1 ceased on the 16th which is why on the 21st we had the first lunal eclipse on the winter solstice in 372 years, this pertaining to the earthquake in v5. (372 years ago was a hotbed of Reformation following King James VI/I who gave us the King James Bible). If you are interested the 7 trumpets thereafter v6 on are: 1. WW2 vision of dog fight. 2. Nagasaki. 3. Chernobyl. 4. Global dimming aka chemtrails. 5. Gulf War. 6. WW3. The angel of the covenant goes back to the incense burner as the product of its being cast upon the earth.
the constellations line up again on 9 29 11 virgo is birthing venus the morning star and saturn the great red dragon is right next to venus. The moon is under her feet and the sun clothes her, there are 12 stars in her head with a crown elenin. Rev 12: 1
The purpose of revelations was what do you think?
I am curious as to why any one in their right mind would write what is not useful to anyone? Why I ask that is because of this.
I have known on several different occasions when someone was going to die. Without a smidgeon of doubt, I have known. Never how, but I know. I didn't want to know and ignored them the first few times. I had no choice when it kept springing into my awareness from nowhere. I could do nothing with that information. Nor would it have benefited anyone knowing.
Revelations is like that springing to awareness event that happens with me except it has been delivered via a book.
Not useful except that it could instil fear in people.
Whether or not they will come into being for me is dependent on where we as humans are at internally.
Destruction is a part of existence but it is not the end in my view. It fails to express that.
There you go stimulating my thoughts again.
Absolutely loving it!!
ALL THINGS WERE BORN FROM TRUTH, YEA,DECEPTION EVEN SO. FOR LUCIFER IS THE SON OF GOD AND IS HE NOT THE FATHER OF DECEPTION?
HEARKEN UNTO MY SPEECH! OH YE GENERATION OF VIPERS WHO HAVE EYES AND SEE NOT AND HAVE EARS BUT HEAR NOT! BEHOLD! Truth I do speak! For I was appointed my day to deliver truth unto thee before the setting of the sun of the first day. The very passages from which thy misunderstandings are conceived were set in place by the father of all lies. Yea, even Lucifer himself, so wherefore is thy wisdom borne but from deception?
A mighty snare hath been prepared for thee! By he who was borne by the wisdom of God almighty! Dare ye ponder to beguile the son of God himself with thy mortal knowledge? I tell thee that the knowledge of man hath been poisoned. Beware thy foolish pride, for within pride doth weakness lie, and in weakness there resides the angel of death. And yea, even now as I approach thee to warn you of it do I find thee with thy hand stretched forth wherefore to receive it's bait.
Listen unto my words! For I shall declare unto thee a new passage. One sent forth from none other than He whom is the Father of ALL things for before him there was not!
Withdraw thy hand wherewith ye reach for death and accept in it's stead a new truth! And it shall set thee free! For thou hast been in bondage for an appointed time. But a fire hath consumed the walls which did hold thee fast and has loosed thee from thy chains! But the day of celebration is naught and is for a time yet to come. Receive this part and grasp it firmly for beyond the walls in which ye were bound lies a host of troops encamped to guard thee from escaping. So make haste but sound not the alarm in a riotous manner.
The days that approach require your acceptance of errors made but from them is no sin upon you. The fire that was set to destroy thy soul has become within each of you an unquenchable desire to know God. No wall can separate anyone from this one thing. And it was thereby that ye are loosed. Now hold fast until my return. Absorb the words which I have spoken. And prepare yourselves for the great tribulation. But worry not for truth shall be thy shield and you shall emerge victorious over the beast without ever wielding an instrument of battle.
Peace and truth be with thee.
Then pride hath consumed thy soul already. I shall waste not my time with you for others shall hear in the final moments. I pray this one thing for thee, a change of heart in all humility happens within thee before your fate is sealed by a prideful act a sharp tongue. I am a humble servant of a the father of all things. God. whom thou has chosen by thy own words to deny without any consideration. Was it not you who asked earnestly that you be granted the answers to these things? And shall you risk the chance of rebuking Gods reward out of foolish pride alone? Of this one thing you may be sure... your response will be with thee for all of eternity.
BEHOLD THE TRUTH,
The woman that John speaks of isn't what you perceive her to be at all. It is a warning. It is an ancient way to portray a specific moment in time to someone in the future. John was telling us how to know when the things he prophecies of shall come to pass.
The woman is none other than the constellation Virgo. The constellation Virgo hath a crown of twelve stars. on September the 29th of the current year 2011, the sun shall rest on Virgos shoulder and she shall be clothed in the sun. On that day shall the moon shall be at her feet. Saturn and Venus also shall be in her womb. For she is with child John has told thee. And wormwood the mighty red comet, the red dragon of destruction doth appear. Ye are ignorant of it's approach for it is overshadowed purposely by it's companion which you know as Elenin. But the destroyer doth follow. They shall move between the earth and the sun and cast the earth into darkness on that day. When this occurs, it hath begun. And hell shall follow.
Heed what I have given thee for thy own sakes.
September 29, 2011 is the FEAST OF TRUMPETS

















Quiet Stormn 2 years ago
Wow, I am impressed with these interpretations. Good job!